Gen won't start or stop from inside panels

Hello Deen I'm sorry this is giving you any grief whatsoever--especially given your engines propensity for pitching out valves. That's a drag! When Mark comes in tomorrow I'll get some background on your post; see where he might go with this. He knows the '440 real well and may have some shortcuts. Stay tuned.... cheers

Hello Deen After speaking with Mark, it seems the best place to start is ensure the gen-slide interlock system is as we think it is. That is, drawer closed, switch closed, relay activated. As you know, there's a 'pin' switch on the generator slide. If it is not closing completely, is broken _or_ the relay it controls has failed then no gen-start can be done remotely. Once that's satisfied and tests good, then on to the connector at the Onan itself. They can work loose over time an produce the same result. Given its in the shop, a fella with a meter could paw through this without much trouble. cheers

MH is still at Cummins NW, engine repair bill stands at $31,000 now with Cummins picking up $9,700 of it at present. Had to close out my IRA to pay it. Drove it less than 2,600 miles since purchase. Now, about the gen start and VMS: Will need the rig back to check the switch, so maybe by this Friday the 17th. Another question: should the pushbuttons on the right side be illuminated at night? If so I guess I need to find the fuses and check them too. What does it cost to reprogram the unit as I have the ISX 650 and the programming only shows the 600 which is not a real problem BUT I'm thinking about replacing the 4 8D AGMs with 4 8D AGM's from Lifeline and they take different charge ratings.

Checked it with my VOM and it's working fine. Now on to the relays and connections I guess. Going to take it into Pacific Power tomorrow to replace the rear shocks. Somehow Cummins bent one and it broke in half now and the other is leaking. They blame the tow company but it was fine when dropped off at the shop. OK, what relays am I looking for? I looked at the schematics I got with the rig and don't find any for the VMS although I could have missed it too. I'm used to reading highway construction plans not electrical stuff! Not sure what software is loaded, I do know all it shows is the ISX 600 and nothing for the PressurePro although I have the Smartire system. Deen

going to be available at the Coos Bay FMCA rally to troubleshoot the system and maybe do a software upgrade? I might just wait till then to do anything more.

Yes Hello Deen Dale will be there--snag him early with a planner *in your hand* so-as to set a time. He'll be flyin busy and with that schedule, he'll get you inked and looked at. It'll likely be after trade-show hours, towards the evening. As for what else to check, its a matter of chasing down the loose ends. Knowing the switch is good is a bonus. Knowing that it 'changes state' (closes) when the drawer is in/ door closed is yet another star. That signal ends up at the TM-102, pin 5 of the OUTPUT connector but goes through a 'safety' relay, first. Once found, your ohms-setting on that volt meter should relate the same state-change as at the switch. I've emailed you a diagram specifically applies to the Country Coach setup--though intended for new builds. Its still about the same. We can eliminate the TM-102 as a problem. There are cases where 'amnesia' affect some functions. A simple q & A can eliminate or implicate this: Does the Generator 'stop' when told to (from Inside?) If it does, the TM-102 is acting as it should. If not, it'll need to be returned for a firmware re-do. A reprogramming, in this case, will fix that problem and, as an aside, give you the latest, updated copy. I believe Dale will have the tools there in Coos Bay to do that reprogramming. So, next, does it 'turn off' from the inside? Art //

have to check that. As I remember from the little time we had with it the gen will NOT shut down from inside but need to check it for sure.

Should say will NOT shut down from inside

Hello Deen Bingo. If it can't shut it down from the inside, then the TM102 has in all likelihood lost some of its memory. Not expected but, given the sheer volume of these on the road, things like this have happened. This will need a firmware update. We'll overwrite the corrupted/ missing instruction and configure it (once again) for your coach's specific needs. Then, it will also be tested for function specifically relating to the gen-start request. Give a call when convenient; we'll work-up an RMA and begin the process. cheers Art //

He did some checking and it seems the Intellitec isn't passing the signal. He suggested rewiring and rerouting around the Intellitec system although that would lose the one start/stop station in the bedroom. Not a big loss as far as I'm concerned. Didn't get the update done either. What do I need to do to get it done now? May have to wait till the camping season ends. But we'll have to see what the wife's cancer treatment entails too. Another question is: do the control buttons have any backlight? The unit is dark at night and I don't like "fishing" for a button and getting the wrong one!

Hello Deen The buttons are not backlit. I've seen a goose-neck LED flashlight from 'Dollar Tree' used though. As for continuing service on the coach ie. the Intellitec issue, you'll need to call so we can get up to speed on where you and Dale were at on that. He's on the road so often...and not usually on the forum... cheers Art //

Wife has liver cancer so lots of time getting her medical stuff taken care of! Since I'm still working it's kind of hard to get down that way but I may need to take the rig to Junction City for some other work so could swing by or take the VMS out and get it to you. Will try to call tomorrow (Wed) and see where we are going.

Wife got a liver transplant July 4th and died August 21st, 2016. Auto gen start is working fine now, Premier RV in Junction City found a broken wire in the loom and bypassed it. Still need to get down there and get the update done though.

Hello Deen Drop by when you can--and bring in your coffee cup and I'll brew you one. No words I can put down in this forum are worthy when it comes to losing your co-pilot. But, I can make good coffee and am here for when you drop in. Please, do. Art //

What is a good day to bring just the 400 CL in? Would like to just drive down with the car and bring the unit itself or should I call and make an appointment?

Hello Deen You can drop in, anytime, for the SW update. No appt is necessary. There's parking around back in case the front lot is full. cheers Art //