VMSpc

VMSpc Engine Monitoring for PC.

v4.x Software Add-list (current)

...........Adds Requested..........
Maybe these are blue-sky ideas. Weren't they all at one time?

a1. Drivers: During install, drop a '\Drivers' folder within c:\VMSpc. Otherwise, when migrating VMSpc folder to another PC, user must jump through some additional hoops, really needlessly, if that folder existed.

b1. Stacked Gauges: Add ability to select two or more gauges and lock together/ anchor one to the other, (Send Front, Send back)

2. Push Button: Top line; "FILL" (Tank) with pump nozzle symbol [reduce clicks]

3. Radio buttons: Top line; day/night, his/hers, Layout (toggles/changes to next layout scr.xml in folder.) with 'layout' symbol [reduce clicks]

4. Tabs, Layout: For alternate gauge layouts/ theme, Tabs across the top?

5. (Layout) Export: Via menu item [Layout, Export to...]

6. Background: Need (Right-Click) Properties, Wallpaper or Solid pre-canned / theme colors, Add Picture (Gauge).

7. All Gauges: Need add'l (Right-Click) Properties: Text Size ie. larger...smaller. Color options, too?

8. Gauge Moving: (alt+arrow) to move selected gauge. (arrow) jump from selected gauge to next one over. (shift+arrow) resize.

9. Histogram: Could sure use some sort of grid or flexible, usable reference lines. Start and End-Line with value (to show change)

10. Gauge Palate colors: Custom Colors (per gauge) are carrying over to (shared by) Night palate from Day. Should be independent of Night or Day.

10-b. Gauge Palate colors: Pin-8 headlight activation. Headlights-on activates night-palate. This is for the new hardware spin.

11. Communications: AutoRestart; checkbox is superfluous. Recode it so its always doing this; remove the check-box and dialog.

12. Diagnostics Gauge: Tire messages. We currently don't trap these in this gauge-tool. Can we start with and capture J1939 PressurePro Gateway messages by building it into the parser?

13. Diagnostics Gauge: Audible Alarms. The user, currently, must set up the alarms per-fault. Why not have that part of the DIAGS gauge function; alarm on fault: Engine/Trans/ABS/Tires... Add to Properties box, alarm on RED fmi or tire messages. Add ability to cancel this alert , ,

14. TPMS Parsing: Add J1939 parsing for Advantage PressurePro enabling us to use either the original J1708 Bridge or the new J1939 Gateway.

15. Name, Value and Warning Lamps: Currently, we have the Name and Value beside the Warning Lamp. On TPMS, its the pressure and lamp--both take more space than they need, reducing the size of all elements in order to see the bunch. Instead, lets put the Value IN the Lamp. The TPMS would then just be the Colored Lamp and embedded Value, resizing within it. This will make all gauge info easier and faster to digest.

16. Tires layout TPMS: They're squished. Lay up more vertically to match coach orientation? Selectable: Squished, Med or Normal?

17. Tank Minder: 1. Add a box for entering cost per gallon for Diesel along with gallons filled. 2. Add a summing-box for Cost-per-mile in Odometer gauge AND as a separate gauge.

18. Screen & Gauge Lock: Make the Full-Screen and Gauge-Lock able to be persistent after a reboot. Menu item this to prevent boot-loop lock-outs for the general pop.

19. TPMS Look and Feel: 1. Chooser for Rounded rectangles or traditional circles 2. Tire Pressure embedded inside, not below.

20. TPMS Trending: 1. If three psi samples (drop or increase) show carrot below (dropping) or above (climbing) the tire pressure value. 2. Menu item: (Tires) Reset Trending (to clear carrots ie. after checking tires.)

21. Alarms: Single-button "Alert" audible alarm feature in gauge properties. GUI "Sound Effects" pop-up then selects file or _records_from_local_mic_. Is there a way to show time-length of selected file?

22. Clock: Add ability to select 12hr or 24hr clock.

23. Regen Status: We don't parse it; Can we add this for both J1708 and J1939? [Caller with J1708, Cat C-9 sees this on the ECU readout at CAT.]

24. Engine Corrections: Variables; Add Reset button to Multiplier, Offset and Buffer Size. Allow an easier do-over.

25. Engine Corrections: Odometer PID; Progy only allows 244 and 245 anyway; change this to two radio-buttons with brief dialog below each, such as DDEC-II pre-revision-154 or DDEC-II rev-154, J1708, J1939 and J1939-II.

26. New Simple Gauge: PAC Brake status; "...It would be nice to have a on/off gauge for the exhaust brake...."

27. Requesting PIDs: Add ability to request PIDs for different MIDs.

28. Gauge Option: Color spot 'Warning Lamp' is optional, how about making the surrounding frame optional? Make the Warning Lamp a circle only (yet with the same (rt-click) options.

29. Reset MAX: MAX gauges need a reset. Otherwise they just keep climbing and so produce either negligible help or irritation.

30. Gauge Borders: Request to make borders match the Custom Color of the gauge. Gives a smooth borderless tile look (Win8 +)

v4.0.6 Software Bug-list (Current)

Fixes need in next release:

1. Default Databus J1939 On install, instead of 'Both' selected (Databus for Troubleshooting) The J1939 is selected. This appears then to not work for those with older J1708/ J1587 coaches.
Fixed: this was resolved with releasing a bugfixer "B" version; 4.0.6b.

2. Missing data, J1708, ~2000 era engines and newer On ISC-370, ISL-370 and ISM-450 we're missing Torque and Horsepower. [This was broken in 4.x and only noted just now. ISL-370 worked on 4.0.5]

3. Retarder Gauge Retarder Switch (Hydraulic) always reads "error".

4. Install Issue Legacy option to "install in a different directory" needs to be removed. The pointers are broken; better to maintain the same folder hierarchy for consistent installs.

5. Retarder Status values lost Engine Retarder Status = "off" when exhaust brake off; reads "error" when exhaust brake is working. These values (under 121) ARE ZEROS. [Art is building the table for this and others.]

6. Spiking Gauges Instantaneous MPG occasionally reads "256". Less often so does rolling MPG. J1708 ISL-370

7. 2017 and Trans Gauge On Freightliner J1939-II (500kb) coaches, the gear attained works but not the gear selected. (v1.13 jib)

8. 2017, Freightliner and ABS Error code "ENG SPN 639 5 J1939 Data Link, Low Current" is thrown with specific combination of hard/ software:
1. v1.13 jib
2. 2017+ Freightliner chassis
3. after a few hours of engine running

9. 2017, Freightliner and Odometers "...hit and miss. Sometimes they work, and then after a reset they are just stuck at zero and count no info at all." (v1.13 jib)

10. Diags messages lost Owner reports that only about 10% of messages make it to the History list. CAT engine, unknown coach/ year/ databus.

11. Road Speed Jumps --up and down from 2mph at about 30 and 6mph at 65.
(2008 Safari CAT C7 350)

12. Cruise status toggles When cruise is off, toggles to On or Set randomly. (2008 Safari CAT C7 350)

13. Chicken Dance Fail "...if you remove the default audio alert and chicken dance audio file you must reinstall the software to get it to start again..."

eof

v4.0.6 Software Feedback

With new software comes new opportunities and...maybe some bugs.

Lets hear about your experiences and how this software is working out.

--If you would, also let us know which Windows version you're on and which, prior, version of VMSpc you used.

Thanks!

Art
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v4.0.5 Software Bug-list

FIXES (needed):
1. Win-10, Defender gives us the boot On install, if program 'sits' idle without being installed, Defender boots it out. Install program is not the problem, Defenders' 'Heuristics' are flagging us as a maybe. (In Work; current work-around is to disconnect from the internet and disable Defender, then re-enable after installation.)

2. Help menu item, needs a link to FAQ and Website. Link to manual works. Working on a 'boiler plate' which will consistently work on OS XP ~ Win-10)

3. Win10, WiFi Dropouts after ~45 min. Mouse-trick didn't work. Other method to prevent interruption? (Root-cause is Microsofts' aggressive update method; no Silverleaf-side workaround found. Problem is expected to change with MS "Creators update"--how? TBD...)

4. Odometer "day one" odometer isn't really day one but is today, instead.

5. Gauge Flicker J1708 & Serial JIB, 'red' values periodically, ~1/10th sec --Otherwise okay. See #7

7. Max Gauges: J1708 based data frequently spike. Any little spike (as displayed) also hits the Max with artificially high values. Parsing or Rule situation? (Still hunting for cause)

8. Color Palate (XP): Palates won't work...

9. Full Screen (XP): Wonky space at screen bottom.
(Moved down the list. Very difficult to fix; focusing on the more problematic issues instead.)

11. Engine Type: Wrong directory opens by default, reverts to My Documents. Next build: drop Additional Engine folder in c:\VMSpc and the balance of stuff in the hierarchical folder (...\VMSpc_4.0.6). This puts the engines in a constant-known location.

12. When playing .WAV file: Hangs on some Win-10.
(worked on this but couldn't reproduce it.)

14. Full Screen: Under Win-10, Tablets: Long background press does not ESC from Full screen.

15. Trans info: Gear Attained missing on (new) J1939 chassis.

16. Tank Minder Under Win10 Tablet (without keyboard), cannot select custom color.

17. Tire Status; Learning Mode This times-out in 20~40 seconds

18. Tire Status; Presets & positions Tires Populate wrong. Populates with '0' rather than preset. After preset is selected, reverts to '0's again; filling screen with tires.

19. Tankminder Wrong MPG, when doing a Partial-Fill, wrong MPG is calculated. (Need more data, inconsistent amongst users.)

20. Maintenance List; displays "0" (mileage) interval (on the list) though it functions correctly while doing so--and while editing. should read 5000 or 10000 or whatever the interval is both during Edit and on the List.

21. Data Logging; Should--but doesn't continue logging when program is closed and re-opened. "In versions 3.xx the selected data remained selected and was always there without having to always re-select after ever closing of the program."

22. Anti-Virus and Install; Some AV screw up the process; Its been found that, during install, When certain AV is active, it may filter out files at random. This may be a process of scanning them real-time and them getting...'lost'(?). Can we build in a check-sum; verify that the needed files are present and fixed if not? [SX include wonky Odometer, fuel & mileage calcs and missing gear-attained indicator.]

23. J1708/J1939 tool; after being set, it may revert back to 'Both' or 'leak(?)' data. After selecting J1939 only, program reverted to 'Both' on its own randomly.

24. Engine Corrections Prefills Offset and multiplier box with spurious data. Can be zero'd (by entering 0.0 or a needed amount)--but will revert to something spurious when opened again unless unique value is inserted.

25. Gauges Not Staying Locked Gauges stay Locked while program is running. Once program is exited and restarted, the Gauges are No Longer locked.

Allison Transmissions

"Transmission Oil Temperature" is supported on J1708/J1587 Allison 3000/4000 Series Transmissions built before 1998.

"Transmission Oil Temperature and Gear Selected/Gear Obtained" are supported on J1708/J1587 Allison 3000/4000 Series Transmissions built from 1998 to 2005.

In 2005, Allison changed the electronics in the 3000/4000 Series Transmissions to ONLY support J1939, which VMSpc does not support.

It is my understanding that in 2008, Allison has added back in the J1708/J1587 support to their 3000/4000 Series Transmissions.

Allison 2000 Series Transmissions are non electronic, and do not support J1708/J1587 or J1939.

Warning Colors for MPG Gages

What the "Recent MPG" and "Rolling MPG" look like in the Parameter Editor.
VMSpc_Gage_Display.jpg

What the "Recent MPG" and "Rolling MPG" will look like after you change them in the Parameter Editor.
VMSpc_Color_Warnings-002a.jpg

What the "Recent MPG" and "Rolling MPG" look like in VMSpc, after the changes in the Parameter Editor.
VMSpc_Color_Warnings-001a.jpg

Built-in computer dashboard

The enhanced understanding of my motorhome’s operation I gained by using VMSpc on my laptop was so great that I undertook building a dedicated system into my 1996 Safari Serengeti. I picked the VIA SP13000 mini-itx motherboard since this would make a compact installation and would provide the ability to display the VMSpc data as well as GPS data and rear view camera data.

In addition to the motherboard I purchased a M1ATX power supply that is designed to power a computer from a 12V DC supply, a 100 MB laptop hard drive, a DVD R/W, a WXGA 15.5” LCD display and a Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-150 TV converter. The VIA SP13000 has pretty capable video and sound chips as well as a wide assortment of I/O ports including a serial port for the VMSpc. I didn’t want to deal with a USB to serial converter. To lessen the vibration input to the system I mounted the computer on a plywood base which I isolated from the motorhome with a soft foam suspension system. I replaced the existing dashboard with one I fabricated from 1/8” aluminum with the display occupying the entire center section. I chose to retain the speedometer, fuel, oil pressure and turbo boost steam gages and put them on the side as backup in case of a computer failure somewhere down the road. Since I had to fabricate the new dashboard I elected to include a Smart Tire system and a variable speed wiper control. I also included a switch and indicator lamps for the computer power and hard drive activity. I installed the DVD in the dash as well as RJ-45 LAN and USB ports. The USB port allows me to plan a trip on my laptop and transfer it to the dashboard for display. I am an active digital photographer so I included a CF card reader for dumping photos into the computer. I installed a track ball on the console beside the driver seat and use a wireless keyboard for setup or if I want to use the computer when we are in camp. The Hauppauge unit includes a remote and lets me display TV and record video on the hard drive to give a “TIVO” capability. I have made provisions for driving a remote display. I intend to remove the existing TV and replace it with a flat panel monitor driven by the computer. Sound data is passed to a Panasonic radio and amplifier system. Internet access is via hot spots and a Linksys wireless router into the RJ-45 port. I also had to purchase a new rear view camera as the original one did not provide a mirror image and the computer did not have enough capability to flip it.

I purchased some wood veneer which I used to cover the aluminum dash. Since the new dash is almost three inches taller than the old one I had to fabricate a new cover for the dash. I used aluminum and fiberglass to build it and covered it with foam and vinyl. Without question this was the hardest part of the installation. The cover provides a small sun shield. The display washes out somewhat in direct sunlight but is still quite readable. For night driving I reverse the streets colors and turn the display brightness down.

I am running Windows XP Home as the OS with VMSpc 2.2, WinTV and Street Atlas which I just recently upgraded to 2007. I have arranged the VMSpc data across the top and down the right side of the screen. Street Atlas 2007 fits beneath and to the left of the VMSpc data. I run the WinTV always on top but with no controls visible and have positioned the window over a non-critical part of the Streets display.

I originally provided a relay system that would power the computer up when the key was turned on or by a switch on the panel. I have since disabled the key activation and just turn it on before I start up the engine. The display runs from 12 V DC. I wasn’t able to get any data on allowable input voltage range so I regulate the voltage to the panel to 12V to make sure I am not supplying to high of a voltage to it. I am running the computer from the house batteries to avoid any transients from the starter. I have had the system installed for over a year and 7000 miles now and the only problem to date has been a faulty hard drive cable. I had used the circular cables rather than the flat ones but switched to the flat ones after the failure.

I have attached photos of the installation and the screen layout. My only regret is that I waited so long to do it.

Adding a 7" monitor to the laptop to display the VMSpc software is a success.

I have successfully added a 7" LCD monitor to my laptop to display the VMSpc software. The wife used the laptop screen to use the GPS software and I didn't want to "infringe" on her space. The 7" VGA monitor worked great using the dual monitor option in Windows XP.

Now I have a seperate monitor on my side to continually display the VMS, the picture quality is great, and I can monitor all of the related gauges without taking my eyes too far away from the line of sight while driving. I mounted the 7" LCD screen on the top left corner of my dash display.

Pictures are available on request!

Marty

Cruise Status for VMSpc 2.x Step-by-Step setup

Cruise Status for VMSpc 2.x Step-by-Step setup
(Originaly Posted on 25-JAN-2003, by Herb Petersen)

I assume most of you use the Cruise gauge to tell you what speed the Cruise Control is set at.
Here is a little enhancement you may wish to try.

Enter the VMS Edit program.
Hit New.

Call the new guage "Cruise Status".
I call the abbreviation "CS".
Set the PID to 85.
Set Gauge Minimum to 0.
Set Low Red Line to 1.
Set High Red Line to 150.
Set Gauge Max to 150.
Set Low Yellow to 2.
Set High Yellow to 150.
Save the settings.

Start the VMSpc program.

Make a new Simple Guage.
Select Cruise Status.
Select location as Center.
Check only the Show Warning Lamp, box.
Set the color to Black.

Size the guage so all you see is the round indicator lamp in the square.

Place this square next to your Cruise Guage.

Now, when the Cruise Control is turned OFF, the guage will be RED.
When the Cruise Control is ON and active it will be GREEN.
When the Cruise Control is ON but NOT active it will be YELLOW.

Enjoy!

Herb

Herb Petersen
608-538-3394 home
414-403-7747 cell

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The Odometer Mucker-Upper

Here is a little tool for editing a trip odometer file. This program lets you adjust the starting point for your current trip - even allowing you to create a "trip" that is the entire coach history.

To use it, you first must figure out the name of the trip odometer file. Right-click on the odometer, then click "View History". At the top of the history file window will be the name of the history file, something like "Odo31415926.odo.txt". Remember that name.

Next, start OdometerEditor.exe, and open the file with the same name you just remembered, but without the ".txt" extension. The program will then show you the starting point for the current trip leg on that odometer. You can adjust those values however you like.

For example, to create an odometer that shows your totals and averages since the coach was born, simply set all the start values (fuel, time, and miles) to zero. That's all you have to do.

To install the program, just download it into your VMSpc directory. That's all. To run the program, click on the Start menu, select "Run ..." or "Run Program", click Browse, and browse to the VMSpc directory and click on the program icon/name.

Always on top?

Is there a way to set up the VMSpc screen so that it is always on top of the screen? Every time I click on my Delorme GPS map, the VMSpc screen disappears. Thanks, Larry

Horsepower and torque readings drop out.

Have a Cat 3126 330 HP w/ Allison 3000 using 6b version

As I pull a hill and watch the horsepower and torque readings at 328 HP the readings drop to zero. As soon as the load is reduced and the engine output drops they come back.

Just downloaded the additional engine files to see if you have an extended engine file for this application.

A Magic Button: What would it do?

Hey folks,
We're exploring an idea called the Magic Button.
Imagine a gauge which acts like a simple On-Off switch (or something). Then, lets say your jib had some ability to turn something on...and off.

What would that be? An LED map light comes to mind. But... what else, hmmm?

And, somehow, if it had this ability to act like a switch, how many of these should there be?

Your thoughts?

Art
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Apple Compatability

Any chance this product will be compatable with Apple soon.

Color of Text

I have been using V 4.03 on an old XP machine for several years. I just downloaded V 4.0.6b to a Windows 10 tablet. The text inside the gauges is a light brown color and the values are in white. On my older screen they were both black and much easier to read. The manual has only a sentence or two about changing text color that is not of much use to me.

Thanks

How can I get odometer data with V4.06

I reported in the 4.06 feedback topic that I do not get odometer readings with 4.06. I would like a suggestion.

Running VMSpc with USB JIB. Windows 10. CAT C-10 engine in a 2000 Country Coach.

Tried all the data bus settings. No luck.

Any help out there?

Certain Guage Data stopped displaying

I have been running vmspc 4.05 for a few months now and recently my transmission gear info gauge stopped displaying what gear i am in. Its just ?? for the last couple of weeks. Yesterday the Oil Pressure stopped updating. I have made sure my malwarebytes & defender scanner has your vmspc folder excluded. All the other gauges appear to be working. Although the mph and water temp changes lag quite a bit more than they did a month ago.

Is there something I can do to fix this? -Bill

Adding Guages

Greetings... I tested v4, but it looks like v3 is still the way to go for me for now (still not getting the gear selected in the transmission gauge for starters). Before firing v3 back up, I ran the PID sniffer in v4 and grabbed some screen shots because of my OCDness. Anyway, I noticed that the PID sniffer in v4 gave me a 412 PID for EGR, which does not come up in v3's PID sniffer. Would I be able to get a working EGR gauge in v3 if I copied all the parameters from the EGR gauge in v4? Thanks in advance.

Files fail to load - no trip odometer information

When starting Silverleaf 4.06, messages telling me that a couple of files failed to load display briefly (too briefly to copy down). Could that be why the trip odometer displays zero for miles, mpg, and hours? The simple odometer and fuel meter are displaying correctly, as are rolling and instantaneous mpg. (J1708 6-pin, cummins ISC 350). Computer is an Alpha Switch running Win 10.

diagnostic error

Getting a code warning but dont know what it is

ENG SID 251 50 Power Supply Invalid Data 7/28/17 16:40
ENG SID 251 50 Power Supply Invalid Data 7/28/17 16:41
ENG SID 251 50 Power Supply Invalid Data 7/28/17 16:42
ENG SID 251 50 Power Supply Invalid Data 7/28/17 16:42
ENG SID 251 50 Power Supply Invalid Data 7/28/17 16:42
ENG SID 251 50 Power Supply Invalid Data 7/28/17 16:43
ENG SID 251 50 Power Supply Invalid Data 7/28/17 16:48
ENG SID 251 50 Power Supply Invalid Data 7/28/17 16:48ENG SID 251 50 Power Supply

Won't Run in MAC/Parallels

7/24/17

INSTALLED v4.0.5 in our Windows 8.1 1 running in Parallels 10 Version 10.3.0 (29227) in MAC OS Sierra Version 10.12.4, configured & tested OK. Now, when we try to open it, all we get is “Error Reading File”. Sure wish there was a Mac version of the software.

Wallpapers for backgrounds

Here are a few wallpapers I played with when setting up my system
Convert the .jpg to a bmp and use them as wallpaper backgrounds
Sorry I couldn't upload them as .bmp

SeeLevel tank monitors

I have SeeLevel tank monitors.
Can they be integrated into the VMSpc system?

v4.0.5 Software Feedback

v4.0.5 was released in late June 2016. As it has significant issues, it's "Experimental only" for now. For First-Time USB installs, use v2.5 ~ v3.1. Leave comments for needed fixes here, first checking the bug-list to see if its already been added. Of course, please add needed detail on PC type, Operating system (XP, Win10...etc) databus (J1708 etc), USB vs WiFi...

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--Art
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Reset Mileage

After 70,115 miles I had to put in a new engine due to improper balance of Coolant by previous owner. I do not want to reset the coach data for total miles, fuel consumed, hours, etc. However I would like to reset those items on the VMSpc. Is this possible? Due to a few miles traveled, I will need to enter these numbers manually in the beginning. Thanks

4.0.6 interface ideas for you guys

Here are a few trial interfaces in version 4.0.6

VMSpc 4.0.6 is live!

Quick note:

v4.0.6 along with the new manual ('4xB') is live.

I've completed testing and done the last tweak on the manual for clarity, better thought out directions and to cover the new functions.

"Point-6" is principally a mass of bug fixes--which worked out pretty good. It has one new item; the combination Clock/ Diags box many requested. Its a big space saver and efficiency improvement.

There's still the stock Clock-Calendar Gauge. The new addition will look similar (Time and Date) until the chassis throws a code, at which point it converts to a full on diags box (of the same size) with numbers and clear messages.

Keep an eye on the 4.0.6 buglist as more folks help shake out the wrinkles. [After a week Now we have a couple.]

cheers

Art
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Picture heirachy

There should be some kind of hierarchy for the pictures. One time I load and my guages are on top and the next time the picture is covering the guages. There should be the same for stacking pictures too. Also a default wallpaper size so I can create a background that has menu boards to place buttons on

Change plug?

I just traded in my older motorhome on a 2010 model. The old one used a 6 pin plug for my VMSpc and the newer one has an 8 pin. Can the plug be swapped out?

Freightliner dash guages going wild

Got my updated jib back For the 2017 Cummins 450 with the 500k green twist on plug and all the guages on the Vmspc are working ok. But my problem is every few minutes the dash warning lights go crazy. ABS, Check engine and other lights come on and off.

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